Singpolyma » @FairVoteCanada what? MMP entrenches parties in the system and uses FPTP for locals, no serious independent opportunity

@FairVoteCanada what? MMP entrenches parties in the system and uses FPTP for locals, no serious independent opportunity

U don’t think parties aren’t entrenched under FPTP??? MMP cannot make it any worse. MMP creates competition 1/

Any system can be created with open-lists where all candidates face the voters. That’s what we support.

More opportunities for independents to be elected at local level. MMP & STV are not that different. 2/

. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma You appear to be mixing two separate issues. FPTP and ranked ballots are party agnostic.

. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Independents aren’t issue. It is the alleged support for party when someone votes for nominated candidate

Well, if you believe that, there is nothing to discuss. Parties have used the flaws of FPTP/AV to entrench

Parties are not the problem. Gotta go. Nice chatting with you

‘ranked ballots’ aren’t party agnostic – they force a 2 party system. Both winner-take-all for big tent parties

. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma To someone who only has a hammer (Gallagher index/etc), everything looks like a nail.#EngagedInER #Frustrating

. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Given you only measure party proportionality, how would you recognize something party agnostic? #EngagedInER

By the number of effective votes that elect a MP or party. Parties not the problem. 1/

Parties behave much better in a PR system that they cannot manipulate 2 gain 100% control w/ few swing seats 2/