Stephen Paul Weber posted, “@FairVoteCanada what? MMP entrenches parties in the system and uses FPTP for locals, no serious independent opportunity” in reply to @ 2016-347.576Z 12 Responses Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.578Z U don’t think parties aren’t entrenched under FPTP??? MMP cannot make it any worse. MMP creates competition 1/ via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.578Z Any system can be created with open-lists where all candidates face the voters. That’s what we support. via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.579Z More opportunities for independents to be elected at local level. MMP & STV are not that different. 2/ via twitter.com Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.580Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma You appear to be mixing two separate issues. FPTP and ranked ballots are party agnostic. via twitter.com Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.580Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Independents aren’t issue. It is the alleged support for party when someone votes for nominated candidate via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.581Z Well, if you believe that, there is nothing to discuss. Parties have used the flaws of FPTP/AV to entrench via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.582Z Parties are not the problem. Gotta go. Nice chatting with you via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.584Z ‘ranked ballots’ aren’t party agnostic – they force a 2 party system. Both winner-take-all for big tent parties via twitter.com Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.585Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma To someone who only has a hammer (Gallagher index/etc), everything looks like a nail.#EngagedInER #Frustrating via twitter.com Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.585Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Given you only measure party proportionality, how would you recognize something party agnostic? #EngagedInER via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.619Z By the number of effective votes that elect a MP or party. Parties not the problem. 1/ via twitter.com Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.619Z Parties behave much better in a PR system that they cannot manipulate 2 gain 100% control w/ few swing seats 2/ via twitter.com Leave a Response Name Email Website Comment Authenticate this comment using OpenID. Get replies via e-mail
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.578Z U don’t think parties aren’t entrenched under FPTP??? MMP cannot make it any worse. MMP creates competition 1/ via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.578Z Any system can be created with open-lists where all candidates face the voters. That’s what we support. via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.579Z More opportunities for independents to be elected at local level. MMP & STV are not that different. 2/ via twitter.com
Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.580Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma You appear to be mixing two separate issues. FPTP and ranked ballots are party agnostic. via twitter.com
Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.580Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Independents aren’t issue. It is the alleged support for party when someone votes for nominated candidate via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.581Z Well, if you believe that, there is nothing to discuss. Parties have used the flaws of FPTP/AV to entrench via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.582Z Parties are not the problem. Gotta go. Nice chatting with you via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.584Z ‘ranked ballots’ aren’t party agnostic – they force a 2 party system. Both winner-take-all for big tent parties via twitter.com
Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.585Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma To someone who only has a hammer (Gallagher index/etc), everything looks like a nail.#EngagedInER #Frustrating via twitter.com
Russell McOrmond • 2016-347.585Z . @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Given you only measure party proportionality, how would you recognize something party agnostic? #EngagedInER via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.619Z By the number of effective votes that elect a MP or party. Parties not the problem. 1/ via twitter.com
Fair Vote Canada • 2016-347.619Z Parties behave much better in a PR system that they cannot manipulate 2 gain 100% control w/ few swing seats 2/ via twitter.com
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U don’t think parties aren’t entrenched under FPTP??? MMP cannot make it any worse. MMP creates competition 1/
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Any system can be created with open-lists where all candidates face the voters. That’s what we support.
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More opportunities for independents to be elected at local level. MMP & STV are not that different. 2/
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. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma You appear to be mixing two separate issues. FPTP and ranked ballots are party agnostic.
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. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Independents aren’t issue. It is the alleged support for party when someone votes for nominated candidate
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Well, if you believe that, there is nothing to discuss. Parties have used the flaws of FPTP/AV to entrench
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Parties are not the problem. Gotta go. Nice chatting with you
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‘ranked ballots’ aren’t party agnostic – they force a 2 party system. Both winner-take-all for big tent parties
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. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma To someone who only has a hammer (Gallagher index/etc), everything looks like a nail.#EngagedInER #Frustrating
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. @FairVoteCanada @singpolyma Given you only measure party proportionality, how would you recognize something party agnostic? #EngagedInER
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By the number of effective votes that elect a MP or party. Parties not the problem. 1/
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Parties behave much better in a PR system that they cannot manipulate 2 gain 100% control w/ few swing seats 2/
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